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Unicorn |
Where were you when Pope John Paul II was elected? | #2661 | ||
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Now, that's a very interesting question, Benodette ... I was just a couple of weeks shy of 12 years old at the
time, and since October 16 was a Sunday, I was at home. What I vividly remember is my father's reaction when it was revealed on the news that John Paul
the Beloved was also born on the 18th of May -- my father was born on May 18, 1924, which made him exactly four years younger than Papa Wojtyla, and he was as
pleased as punch to learn than they shared the same birthday! Ever afterwards, my father would always say that he shared his birthday with this most beloved
of Popes, and the fact was always a source of great joy and pride for him.
Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI |
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Quirin |
Re: John Paul - The Impossible Dream | #2662 | ||
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On 16th October, 31 years ago, Cardinal Karol Wojtyla was elected Pope John Paul II.
We will never forget him. Benodette, I can't hesitate to sing: "You are not alone...." Thousand, millions are thinking the same and I'm sure that he will be forgotten will not happen as long as you live. Where were you when Pope John Paul II was elected? I was mouring about Pope John Paul I., my beloved Pope, and about Pope Paul VI., my beloved Pope, and I was looking forward to see Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Pope who is now out of the grace of God my beloved Pope Benedict XVI. |
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Unicorn |
On Papal elections | #2663 | ||
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Thinking about where I was when John Paul the Beloved was elected made me realize that in my lifetime, I have thus far seen four Popes - Paul VI, John Paul I,
John Paul II and Benedict XVI. I had not yet been born when Paul VI was elected, and I was just four years old when he visited the Philippines, though I can
still remember the throngs of people who flocked into Quezon City for his Papal Mass.
I vividly remember where I was when Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope ... April 19th was a Tuesday, and I came home from work at around 6pm. I decided to check the news on CNN, to see if the Conclave had elected John Paul the Beloved's successor. Dark smoke was still puffing out of the Sistine Chapel's chimney, and I thought "oh dear, this is going to be a rather long wait ..." I am a rather late sleeper, preferring to read late at night, so I decided to check on CNN again at around midnight. Thanks to the magic of remote controls, I was able to alternate between CNN and EWTN, and what should I see on the split-screen on CNN that April night but whitish smoke wafting out of the chimney on one screen, and the great bell of St. Peter's Basilica beginning to swing with a slow, solemn majesty. For about two minutes, I was stupefied, then my brain clicked into gear and I remembered John Paul the Beloved's instructions that the bell of St. Peter's would ring out over the Piazza to announce to world that his successor, and the Successor of Peter, had been chosen by the College of Cardinals, upon the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. I remember calling out to my mother, who was in her bedroom watching a different program, "Ma, Ma, this is it, this is it!!!" It felt incredible, to watch history being made. *Sigh* Ah, I am digressing from the topic at hand, and I ask everyone's pardon. But that was indeed, a very happy memory, and I rather think that John Paul the Beloved himself was smiling broadly in elation as he watched the crowds pouring into the Piazza to hail his own "trusted friend" as the Vicar of Christ. Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI |
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Benodette |
More from Bernard Fellay | #2664 | ||
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Benodette |
Anna Arco meets the blogger Rocco Palmo | #2665 | ||
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Rocco Palmo gets a well deserved piece in The Catholic Herald. His blog stands out as being informed, informative and scrupulously fair.
He doesn't use it to trumpet his own views on every issue, or to whine about the media or people whose views differ from his. Closing his comboxes was a
smart move - it prevented his site becoming a stamping ground for rabid fanatics. In addition Rocco Palmo writes with a clear and well crafted style. In my
opinion he provides some of the best daily coverage there is on the RC Church. If he has a fault it is that he is too centred on the US - but then he is
American.
Catholic Herald The Catholic Herald - Exiting St Patrick's Cathedral into the damp heat of New York in September, I try to see if I can single out Rocco Palmo from among the tourists lounging under the scaffolding, grateful for a shady seat on the cathedral steps. Then I find him, shoulder bag slung to one side looking a bit scruffy (in a good way) and intent on his iPhone, looking for all the world like one of the boy-men of the internet age. He is in his mid-twenties, wearing flip-flops and baggy trousers, a T-shirt and sporting what looks like a three-day beard. He is a bit shorter than I expected, and slight, but his smile is enormous. Palmo is an unlikely grandfather of the Catholic blogosphere. .... Despite the growing reality that blogs are just as much part of our media landscape as newspapers, radio and television - so much so that Westminster auxiliary Bishop John Arnold mentioned the outpouring of emotion and joy in the blogosphere about the visit of the relics of St Thérèse of Lisieux from the pulpit at Westminster Cathedral last week - they are still viewed with a great deal of suspicion, especially in the Church. Yet Pope Benedict XVI mentioned the new media positively in this year's World Communication Day address. He said: "The new digital technologies are, indeed, bringing about fundamental shifts in patterns of communication and human relationships. "These changes are particularly evident among those young people ... In this year's message, I am conscious of those who constitute the so-called digital generation and I would like to share with them, in particular, some ideas concerning the extraordinary potential of the new technologies, if they are used to promote human understanding and solidarity. These technologies are truly a gift to humanity and we must endeavour to ensure that the benefits they offer are put at the service of all human individuals and communities, especially those who are most disadvantaged and vulnerable." But the common perception is that bloggers are polemicists who specialise in half-truths, rhetorical flourishes and rumours. They are seen to further the rule of the mob, in the form of comment boxes or on social networking sites. And it is common knowledge that in order to succeed as a blogger you have to be angry, you have to have a Twitter account, you need to be controversial, you need to have an opinion and you almost certainly need to have comment boxes. One of the chief criticisms thrown at the blogosphere, especially the Catholic blogosphere, is that it unleashes a wave of anger and fury and that many commentators show a lack of Christian charity that they would never show in real life...... And yet in the Catholic corner of the blogosphere there is one extremely successful blogger, both by the narrow standards of its community and by those of the wider internet, who keeps old media precepts but applied to the new media form. Palmo runs the highly popular Whispers in the Loggia blog, which has almost 11.5 million hits in five years. He does not allow comments on his stories. They are crafted in the best tradition of American journalism: earnest, informative and so balanced it is difficult to tell where he stands on a subject personally. He is the kid in the pyjamas of the blogging archetype, but with the sort of journalistic standards that would put many a student even of the mega-earnest and prestigious graduate school of journalism at Columbia to shame. Whispers in the Loggia carries news of appointments, passes on clerical gossip, explains the news, and sifts through arcane ecclesiastical processes. This year, the wiry Philadelphians broke the news of Archbishop Timothy Dolan's appointment to the Archdiocese of New York, long before the mainstream press or even the nations' Catholic press had a chance to write about the news. For many religion journalists working for nationals newspapers, Whispers in the Loggia is the place to come for Catholic news. In a medium that lends itself to fostering division Palmo sets out to straddle the gap between secular coverage of Catholicism and the religious press. He also attempts find ways of bridging a growing chasm between liberal and conservative Catholics who are increasingly polarised in President Obama's America. He says: "I have friends on both sides of the aisle and sometimes I lean to one side or another. wherever we are in the Church, we are always missing another half. It's the only way we can be the best Church we can be is if we can be the fullest Church we can be. "If you look at this country we have a 25 per cent Mass attendance, which means 75 per cent of the Church isn't with us. What are we doing about that? A lot of these other controversies get us away from the big questions. We have a hurting world. We have challenges to human life and dignity every day. So what is all this doing? Are we just expressing our opinions or are we trying to build something?" Born in Philly in 1983, Palmo really does come across in person as the new media whizz kid that he is. There is a touch of the geek about him, but these days geeks are the coolest people around. George Weigel wrote recently that Pope John Paul II ran the Church from his rooms in the Vatican, by-passing the Curia entirely. Perhaps it is fitting that Palmo, a true member of the JPII generation, writes Whispers from his parents' house, bypassing the mainstream media and the Catholic press entirely. Although he grew up in very Catholic Italian American family, Palmo really came to his faith through newspapers. His father worked on the circulation side of the Philadelphia Inquirer and Palmo often accompanied him to the office. He learned the ropes in the newsroom there, with a number of internships. When the Philadelphia Archbishop Anthony Bevilacqua was made cardinal in 1991, Palmo was entranced by the ceremony and wanted to learn more. He met Cardinal Bevilacqua and soon got to know some of America's foremost churchmen because he was a curious and precocious teenager. He says: "I came out of it with all these questions, I'd never been interested in it before so then I got to meet him and he became - in the Church - my father figure. He answered all my questions and always showed me the ropes of the Church while I had the news people showing me the ropes of journalism." Everyone expected Palmo would go on to be a priest, but instead he went to the University of Pennsylvania, studied politics and the Holy See and turned his passion for the Church and for journalism into a blog. When he started, he says that people "wrote to me saying: 'You really must be a cardinal writing under a pen name' or 'you applied to the seminary and you're bitter that you got kicked out'." "I never applied. If anything I hope I wouldn't have got kicked out or rejected or whatever, but really the blog just comes from loving the Church and wanting to just examine it. Not as in putting it on trial, but in order to show that there's always more to the story. Because obviously, in the secular press you can only fit in a certain number of inches and there's only a certain amount of interest." Palmo was surprised and a bit frightened by the success of his blog. "I started the page as a sort of catharsis with three people and never gave the address to anyone else and then five months later discovered it was written on napkins during the [2005 papal] conclave and passed around," he recalls. "My first thought was, I need to kill this thing." The blog shows his development as a journalist: from the first days in 2004 where he promises an ambitious agenda ("short of seeking and highlighting truth, justice and fruitful discourse (or the lack thereof), I come (with no biases)" to today's more polished writing. He retains the ease and folksy tone but it is clear that he is more careful about actually putting himself into the blog posts than he was when he started. There are stories he would rather not publish. But that he feels he has a responsibility to as a journalist and as a committed Catholic. He says the watershed moment came when he was given a letter that was being anonymously circulated in the Archdiocese of New York, calling for a vote of no confidence on Cardinal Edward Egan. He says that he received a lot of flak for publishing it. "This also came as a wake-up call for me and I thought: 'God, I have to try to be even more responsible and take more of myself out of it.' I found myself saying to myself: 'If this is what new media can do in terms of policy and spread, in terms of how decisions are made and what decisions are made, then I need to be more careful.'" He continues: "I always knew I felt I had an obligation to journalism and to the Church but that really made me a lot more cautious. That said, if I had to, I would do it again." In a way, Palmo sets out to do exactly what the Church sets out to do every day, which is to present an old message without changing it, using whatever new media are out there to do it. His faith informs his journalism and vice versa. When he talks about difficult situations, he says: "The best thing for the Church sometimes means writing about difficult truths. Nobody likes them less than me, but at the same time there are always going to repercussions if people find out that we haven't been honest, that we haven't been as transparent as we should have, especially in these days. If we claim to have the capital 'T' Truth then we have to be realistic about the small 't' truth, because if you ignore the second for the sake of the first you're going lose both." He says that the Church is a great teacher of journalism. "I have the story, I have to present it, I can't change it," he explains. "And that's what we have to do with the teaching of the Church. We have to present it. We can't change it. We can't make into what we want it to be. And if we do we're being irresponsible." We are always missing the other half' |
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Benodette |
Cardinal says media has ignored work of African bishops' synod | #2666 | ||
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CNS - Three weeks of intensive discussion among African bishops about the challenges they face in their poor and often war-torn
countries have been largely ignored by the media, a South African cardinal said.
Cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier, archbishop of Durban and a co-president of the Synod of Bishops for Africa, also has complained that news about Africa in newspapers and on television in the rest of the world is usually bad news, and that positive stories are rarely reported. The Vatican's daily newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, asked Cardinal Napier Oct. 23 whether sufficient attention had been given to the synod; he replied, "Absolutely not. It's been very little." Some Catholic newspapers and radio stations across Africa covered the synod, which was to close Oct. 25, but "as far as the rest of the media is concerned, I don't think they are doing much," the cardinal said. "Spiritual or religious things are not reported, unless they are controversial," he said. "In that case," he added, "they are sure to be published!" The 275 members of the synod have discussed a vast array of topics regarding the church's work in Africa, including economic injustice, war, hunger, Christian-Islamic dialogue, family life, environmental exploitation and the particular plight of women, just to name a few. Even before the Vatican newspaper interview, Cardinal Napier had taken a gentle swipe at the media for ignoring the positive aspects of the continent while emphasizing disasters and tragedies. "Africa is much more," he told journalists Oct. 14. "It embodies values and abilities that can offer spiritual richness, even to the rest of the world."... Cardinal says media has ignored work of African bishops' synod |
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Benodette |
Vatican could convert Lefebvrists into personal prelature, says Fellay | #2667 | ||
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CNA - In an interview with the Chilean daily, "El Mercurio," the Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, Bernard Fellay, acknowledged that the
Vatican is considering the possibility of converting the Lefebvrist group into a personal prelature as part of the discussions aimed at bringing about
reconciliation.
Fellay, who visited members of the SSPX movement in Chile, is one of four bishops whose excommunication was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI last January. Asked about the speculation that the Society of Pius X could be made into a personal prelature similar to Opus Dei, Fellay responded, "There is a lot of truth to that. I think the Vatican is moving towards that kind of canonical solution." He also noted that the controversy unleashed by Bishop Richard Williamson's statements on the Nazi holocaust "was a well-planned attack, not
against the Society, but directly against the person of Pope Benedict XVI, in order to tarnish his gesture."
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Benodette |
Ghanaian cardinal to head Vatican's peace office | #2668 | ||
AP AP/OR - The pope has appointed Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson to head the Vatican's justice and peace office. The high-profile job cements Turkson's position as a possible future papal candidate. The office is responsible for promoting the Church's social teachings on justice issues, such as war, the death penalty and human rights. Turkson was informed of the nomination at a news conference Saturday concluding a three-week Vatican meeting on the role of the Catholic Church in Africa. The 61-year-old archbishop of Cape Coast replaces Italian Cardinal Renato Martino, who is retiring. Turkson told reporters three weeks ago that there was no reason there couldn't be a black pope, particularly after Barack Obama was elected U.S. president
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Unicorn |
Vatican could convert Lefebvrists into personal prelature, says Fellay | #2669 | ||
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This is, I must say, a very "nice" way to start the week ... another "gem" of a statement from none other than the
very articulate Bernard Fellay.
Fellay, who visited members of the SSPX movement in Chile, is one of four bishops whose excommunication was lifted by Pope Benedict XVI last January. Asked about the speculation that the Society of Pius X could be made into a personal prelature similar to Opus Dei, Fellay responded, "There is a lot of truth to that. I think the Vatican is moving towards that kind of canonical solution." I wonder when Bernard Fellay will cease putting words into the Vatican's mouth. The discussions have barely begun, and he is now making statements about what the Vatican intends to do with regard to the SSPX! What right does he have to make any pronouncements about the veracity of any speculations concerning the fate of the SSPX? Is he the official spokesperson of these discussions? Was he given a mandate to speak by the CDF? Who is his source for such information? When will this man ever learn to be silent and let the people who have the authority - and the credibility! - to make any pronouncements about these matters be the ones to make the statements? And a personal prelature! I really do not think that Bernard Fellay has any justification for saying that there is "a lot of truth" to the speculation that the Vatican will transform the SSPX into a personal prelature along the lines of the privilege granted to the Opus Dei! For one thing, the Opus Dei has never - openly or otherwise - disavowed the Second Vatican Council. For another, the founder of Opus Dei never disobeyed the Holy Father and was, in fact, canonized as a saint - certainly a far cry from the behaviour of Marcel Lefebvre, who openly defied John Paul the Beloved and lured the priests who placed their trust in him into schism. More importantly, Opus Dei was not created in the spirit of schism or as a means to defy the Catholic Church, and regardless of the somewhat controversial image of Opus Dei, I don't think that any priest associated with Opus Dei, nor any of the Opus Dei members, have ever spoken or acted in a manner that was disobedient to the Pope. He also noted that the controversy unleashed by Bishop Richard Williamson's statements on the Nazi holocaust "was a well-planned attack, not against the Society, but directly against the person of Pope Benedict XVI, in order to tarnish his gesture." That old canard again ... of course, Bernard Fellay will never admit that Richard Williamson made a colossal mistake in making those appalling statements, or that the SSPX did nothing to censure him after he made similarly anti-Semitic statements in the past, or that the SSPX itself has anti-Semitic leanings. Oh no, it is always the fault of other people who want to "besmirch" the Pope - never mind that it was Marcel Lefebvre who besmirched the authority of John Paul the Beloved twenty years ago, or that the SSPX continues to besmirch the Catholic Church by claiming that it is we who are wandering about in the howling wilderness of spiritual error. A personal prelature? I think not. And now I need that antacid again ... Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI
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Benodette |
Vatican could convert Lefebvrists into personal prelature, says Fellay | #2670 | ||
That old canard again ... of course, Bernard Fellay will never admit that Richard Williamson made a colossal mistake in making those appalling statements, or that the SSPX did nothing to censure him after he made similarly anti-Semitic statements in the past, or that the SSPX itself has anti-Semitic leanings. Oh no, it is always the fault of other people who want to "besmirch" the Pope - never mind that it was Marcel Lefebvre who besmirched the authority of John Paul the Beloved twenty years ago, or that the SSPX continues to besmirch the Catholic Church by claiming that it is we who are wandering about in the howling wilderness of spiritual error. Unicorn this so true! It is pathetic how various "apologists" have been falling over themselves and tying themselves in knots over dates and motivations to feed this ridiculous charge that the Williamson interview was a deliberate and personal "attack" on the Pope. For heaven's sake, that ghastly Williamson actually believed what he said in that vile interview. He has been saying the same things for years, in public and on the internet. He was a loose cannon and SSPX should have acted to shut him up long ago. Instead they put him in charge of a seminary! How can a man who talks in that way command any moral authority as a bishop in the Catholic Church? If there was an "attack" on the Pope it was SSPX who handed the ammunition to the attackers. Incompetence, ignorance and arrogance did the rest. In his latest interview, given in Argentina, Fellay said this: Who is behind this manipulation? In other words, everyone is to blame for the furore except SSPX. The last thing needed at this point is for Fellay to be loquacious again, giving interviews to newspapers in every country he visits - South Africa, Chile, and now Argentina. He always says the same thing. His mindset is that the Church needs to return to SSPX and not the other way round. He is also clearly trying to drive the conclusion - a personal prelature. I am no great admirer of Opus Dei, or C&L, or Foccolare, or any of those "movements" but they certainly cannot be compared with SSPX. We shall have to wait and see what agreement, if any, comes from the discussions which begin today. I wonder how many "leaks" and unofficial "briefings" we can expect along the way. Fellay was asked where the Pope stood on all this. And where does the Pope stand in all this? Precisely, and who has put him in such a difficult position? - Oh yes, it must be the Masons! |
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Benodette |
Vatican, traditionalist Catholics identify key questions for dialogue | #2671 | ||
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CNS- In an atmosphere described as "cordial, respectful and constructive," Vatican officials opened a dialogue with
representatives of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X and scheduled twice-a-month meetings over the coming months.
In a statement issued after the first meeting at the Vatican Oct. 26, the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei" said the process would focus on key doctrinal issues arising from the teachings of the Second Vatican Council. "The questions due to be examined concern the concept of tradition, the Missal of Paul VI (the post-Vatican II Roman Missal), the interpretation of Vatican Council II in continuity with Catholic doctrinal tradition, the themes of the unity of the church and the Catholic principles of ecumenism, the relationship between Christianity and non-Christian religions, and religious freedom," the statement said. Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, Vatican spokesman, said the meeting lasted about three hours and dealt primarily with setting an agenda and a schedule for the talks. While he gave no idea how long the process would take, Father Lombardi said semimonthly meetings represented a "rather intense rhythm" and a serious attempt to heal two decades of separation between the traditionalists and the rest of the church.... Father Lombardi said the commission's positive description of the climate of the meeting meant there was "a sense of trust that accompanied this meeting and its prospects." "Finally, doctrinal questions are beginning to be discussed by competent people, representatives who are authorized by the two sides," Father Lombardi said. The head of the Society of St. Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, who was not at the Vatican for the meeting, repeatedly has said he and the other members of the society have serious concerns about the way the teachings of the Second Vatican Council have been interpreted and implemented, particularly the teachings regarding religious liberty, ecumenism, liturgy and relations with other religions.... Vatican, traditionalist Catholics identify key questions for dialogue VIS - The Holy See Press Office released the following communique late this morning: "On Monday 26 October in the Palazzo del Sant'Uffizio, headquarters of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and of the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei", the study commission made up of experts from "Ecclesia Dei" and from the Society of St. Pius X held its first meeting, with the aim of examining the doctrinal differences still outstanding between the Society and the Apostolic See. "In a cordial, respectful and constructive climate, the main doctrinal questions were identified. These will be studied in the course of discussions to be held over coming months, probably twice a month. In particular, the questions due to be examined concern the concept of Tradition, the Missal of Paul VI, the interpretation of Vatican Council II in continuity with Catholic doctrinal Tradition, the themes of the unity of the Church and the Catholic principles of ecumenism, the relationship between Christianity and non- Christian religions, and religious freedom. The meeting also served to specify the method and organisation of the work". |
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Benodette |
German court fines British bishop for Holocaust claims | #2672 | ||
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I shudder to see the word "British" connected with this man's name. The question now is if he (or some benefactor) will pay the fine.
The Guardian - A British bishop has been fined €12,000 after a German court found him guilty of denying the Holocaust. Richard Williamson received a letter today from the court in the Bavarian city of Regensburg informing him that he was being fined for incitement over his claim on Swedish television that fewer than 300,000 Jews died in Nazi death camps. In the interview, Williamson alleged that Nazi gas chambers had never existed and "only 200,000 to 300,000 Jews" had been killed by the Nazis. Holocaust denial is classed as a hate crime in Germany and because the interview took place in Regensburg, German prosecutors were allowed to investigate. The bishop's remarks were made public in January, shortly after Pope Benedict XVI repealed an order made by the previous pope excommunicating Williamson
for his rightwing views. Williamson was consecrated a bishop by the pope's Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), an ultraconservative splinter group....
Williamson has said through his lawyer that he was assured his offending remarks would not be broadcast in Germany but only in Sweden, where there is no law against Holocaust denial. A Munich newspaper, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, said prosecutors had received a letter from the Swedish television producers in which they denied offering any assurance to Williamson that the interview, conducted in English, would be broadcast in Sweden only. Williamson's German lawyer, Matthias Lossmann, said his client had been told to pay €100 a day for 120 days, and he was likely to appeal. If he does, there will be a proper trial in Regensburg, which Williamson will not be forced to attend. Lossmann told Germany's Focus magazine that the fine - imposed under an "order of punishment", a German legal tool that involves no trial but,
if accepted by the defendant, is equivalent to a conviction - was too harsh and that the sentencing authorities had been influenced by the publicity
surrounding the case. German law allows a maximum sentence of five years in prison for belittling or denying the Holocaust.
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Chief bodyguard of Pope John Paul II dies | #2673 | ||
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AP - The longtime chief bodyguard of the late Pope John Paul II, who accompanied him in trips abroad and was nearby during the 1981 attempted assassination of
the pontiff, has died in Rome at 83.
Camillo Cibin was one of the most faithful papal servants. In 2006, he retired as head of the papal bodyguards after a 58-year globe-trotting career in the Vatican's security services. Cibin died Sunday morning at the Pius XI clinic in Rome, Vatican Radio said. It did not give a cause of death. Cibin was often was seen running alongside popemobiles to protect the pontiff in John Paul's 104 pilgrimages abroad. He was also nearby when, on May 13, 1981, a Turkish gunman shot John Paul in a failed assassination attempt in St. Peter's Square. In 2005, a white-haired Cibin kept pace along John Paul's vehicle as it carried the late pontiff on his last journey home to the Vatican from Gemelli Polyclinic where he had been hospitalized. Shortly thereafter, John Paul died in his papal apartment. Earlier in John Paul's papacy, when the pontiff was still athletic, Cibin accompanied him on hikes through the mountains during summer vacations in the Italian Alps. Cibin's duties also included directing security during the 1962-65 Vatican Council II, which drew cardinals from around the world and set in motion modernizing reforms of the Church. Cibin was married and had three children.
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Williamson has said through his lawyer that he was assured his offending remarks would not be broadcast in Germany but only in Sweden, where there is no law against Holocaust denial. A Munich newspaper, the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, said prosecutors had received a letter from the Swedish television producers in which they denied offering any assurance to Williamson that the interview, conducted in English, would be broadcast in Sweden only. Benodette, I understand completely how you feel, particularly in light of the memory of the countless British soldiers who shed their blood on the battlefields of Europe to put an end to the brutal regime of Adolf Hitler and to the inhuman cruelty of the Shoah. Does Richard Williamson think for one minute that the fact that the interview would be aired in Sweden would make the things he said any less despicable? Denying the Holocaust is completely and utterly contemptible, regardless of whether statements to that effect are made in Thailand, in Turkey, or in Timbuktu. Richard Williamson should thank his lucky stars that he got off with merely a €12000 fine! This man never fails to make me want to reach for an antacid whenever I read something about him ... ******************* On a separate note, it is sad to hear of the passing of the courageous Signor Cibin. May the angels lead the Pope's "guardian angel" to the throne of the Lord, and may he arrive at the Father's House to be greeted by the smile of John Paul the Beloved, who he served so faithfully. Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI
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Benodette |
Nuns, Pope Benedict and Maureen Dowd’s Nazi slur | #2675 | ||
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I have not followed the various stories associated with the Vatican investigation of religious sisters in the US. However, a piece in the NY Times by
Maureen Dowd, seems to have sparked rather a lot of coverage. This is from a blog in the National Post.
By Charles Lewis, National Post
Columnist Maureen Dowd, in Sunday's New York Times, has weighed in on the Vatican investigation now taking place into the state of American nuns. The investigation, officially called an apostolic visitation, has been met with a fair bit of skepticism because there is a strong sense, among many sisters, that this is an attempt to put American nuns back where they belong: behind convent walls and dressed in the traditional habit. Since Vatican II, many nuns have opted for less structured lives, taking on a range of secular jobs and living on their own instead of in a community. All the while, of course, staying true to their vows. Those in charge of the investigation, which began earlier this year, have been vague in what they expect to find and what they may recommend when they wrap up in 2011. Personally, I don't find this alarming. The Vatican has every right to keep what they are doing quiet while they complete their work. Nor does the fact that they are not sharing every shred of their investigation with the media a sign of a dark conspiracy. So Dan Brown fans take a pill and chill out. Ms. Dowd notes that American nuns are quickly aging and then adds that the investigation - she calls it an "inquisition" - hopes to "herd them back into their old-fashioned habits and convents and curb any speck of modernity or independence." If that was the entire point then Ms. Dowd could be forgiven her mocking tone. The idea of Vatican thugs dragging nuns out of their private apartments, forcing them into habits, and then locking them inside cloistered walls would be pretty horrific. In actual fact, the idea is somewhat ridiculous. What the Vatican is worried about, as it should be, is that American nuns are vanishing at an alarming rate. In the summer, a separate study by the U. S. National Religious Vocation Conference found the number of nuns in the United States had fallen a stunning 66% over the past four decades, from 180,000 to 59,000, and 90% women living a religious vocation are now over the age of 60 - a trend that could see many of the existing 400 religious communities vanish if new recruits are not found. (In Canada, there are 19,000 nuns, down 54% from 42,000 in 1975.) The U. S. study also found that the majority of young women taking vows today are joining more traditional orders, where wearing the habit is the norm and
living and praying in community is considered paramount. They also work, often as teachers. It should be added that these young women are not being dragged
kicking and screaming into these more conservative communities. They are doing it by choice. As well, many come from professional backgrounds, so they are
certainly capable of thinking through their own futures.....
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Unicorn |
Nuns, Pope Benedict and Maureen Dowd’s Nazi slur | #2676 | ||
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There are days when I read a commentary and end up shaking my head in utter frustration and exasperation. Having read Maureen Dowd's harangue against the Church and Benedict XVI, I am not just shaking my head, I'm rolling my eyes as well.
It's all very well for her to recall that incident from her childhood, but I'm willing to bet that when that happened, she most certainly did not think that Sis. Hiltruda was a "second-class citizen". She was, in all probability, grateful for the intervention of Fr. Montgomery, and only much later in her life did she look upon that incident through the sometimes warped lens of feminism, and only then "interpret" that event as an example of the "denigration" of women by the Catholic Church. I wonder if it ever entered her head that the priest may have spoken to the nun afterward, and asked that she not be so strict on the children, and that the nun, perhaps realizing the impact of her behaviour on a young child, took a less harsh approach to discipline. But of course, Ms. Dowd would never think that, because in the Church, the nuns are always browbeaten by the all-powerful priests.
Frankly, Ms. Dowd's entire commentary labours under an attitude that comes perilously close to bitterness, and it's quite clear that she's
prepared to think the worst of the Church - and certainly of the Pope. Despite everything that has been reported in credible news sites about the simplicity
of Benedict XVI's lifestyle, she persists in repeating those ridiculous stories about the designer shoes and sunglasses (which, I do believe, have never
reappeared, and there was never any definitive statement that they were "Serengeti" sunglasses - I believe someone simply made the comment that they
looked like Serengetis). But perhaps the most abhorrent thing that she said in that article is to imply that the Pope assumed the characteristics of the
tyrannical Nazis - never mind that he himself has long spoken of his and his family's profound disgust of the Nazis and his own father's loathing for
all things Nazi. I can only be distressed on behalf of Il Papa, who must still suffer the stigma of a past that neither he nor his family wanted, and which
caused them no small amount of affliction. It is the supreme irony -- a man who came from a family that abhorred Nazism is now being accused of Nazi
tendencies.
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised that Ms. Dowd would want her readers to believe that the Vatican's apostolic visitation is nothing less than a rebirth of the Inquisition itself. She apparently has no qualms in claiming that the Church "enabled rampant pedophilia". If she had bothered to look up the word "rampant" in the dictionary, she would have seen that the word means "uncontrolled", "unchecked", or "widespread". I wonder how the thousands upon thousands of dedicated and truly Christ-like priests and missionaries who have spent their lives in the service of the Lord would feel about being branded as pedophiles, since Ms. Dowd seems to think that incidents of pedophelia in the Church have reached epidemic proportions.
Where, in the name of all that's holy, could she possibly get the idea that the visitation is nothing more than a smokescreen for a Vatican operation to "herd them back into their old-fashioned habits and convents and curb any speck of modernity or independence"? And as for her statement that the Vatican is "trying to wall off the "brides of Christ," Cask of Amontillado style," well, I'm afraid this one truly borders on the outlandish. Does she honestly believe that the Church is still living in the Middle Ages, or that the mentality of the Vatican remains mired in Medieval times? Doesn't the Vatican have a right to assess the situation of the women religious in the US without someone accusing the investigative team of being throwbacks to the Inquisition?
Rarely will I say this, but Ms. Dowd's entire column smacks of the kind of knee-jerk reaction from people who, for reasons I'd rather not speculate on, prefer to read - and believe! - the sensationalist media rather than make truly informed conclusions based on credible reports. I expected a more intelligent - and certainly more responsible - commentary from someone who is a Pulitzer Prize winner. When did it become so easy for supposedly credible journalists to write such unfounded and defamatory statements? I wonder, when the apostolic visitation results in developments that shall bear absolutely no likeness whatsoever to the horrendous scenarios Ms. Dowd is propounding, will she have the decency to apologize to the Pope and to the Church? I certainly hope she will - otherwise, I'm going to seriously wonder whether she does deserve that Pulitzer Prize. Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI |
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mag6nideum |
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Yes Unicorn, the piece by Ms Dowd is upsetting and IMO vicious. Even more upsetting are most of the 500+ combox replies. When I read these
rants and those in other news papers/blogs pertaining to the Pope's offer to the Anglicans, I get the horrible impression that I have converted to an
almost evil Church that is truly hated by millions of people world wide, or at least in the West. If these rants come from non-Catholics and atheists/seculars
I could still understand it to a certain extent ( ignorance, jealousy, historical grudges etc.). But it is the negativity shining through the writings of
current Catholics and ex-Catholics that boggles my mind.
About Catholics still in the Church who don't have a good thing to say about the RCC: I just cannot understand why these people stay in the Church, while besmirching and foul-mouthing her, instead of doing the honest thing and leave. |
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Benodette |
The man at the center of the storms | #2678 | ||
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From John Allen - ....
Slovenian Cardinal Franc Rodé, 75, heads the Vatican's Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life. That gives him jurisdiction over religious orders, and makes him the man behind two high-profile, and highly controversial, Vatican investigations: one of American women religious, the other of the Legionaries of Christ. Both are currently underway, and it will be up to Rodé's office -- if not necessarily to Rodé himself, since he's already reached the usual retirement age -- to decide what recommendations go before the pope. A Vincentian, Rodé comes across in person as charming, capable of putting people at ease in at least five languages. Yet to call him a controversial figure
among many leaders in religious life, both men and women, is almost certainly an understatement.
Since coming to his job in 2004, he's become famous primarily for flinging down gauntlets. Well-known examples include a homily he delivered for the Jesuits in January 2008, bluntly demanding obedience to the hierarchy, and a lecture at Stonehill College in North Easton, Mass., in September 2008, raising the "necessary and brutal question" of whether important sectors of religious life have broken communion with the church, even if they've physically stayed in place. Rodé also recently raised eyebrows by asking the U.S. bishops to cough up $1.1 million to fund the investigation of American nuns (see story). Yet for a man who once spent three years in an Austrian refugee camp after fleeing a hostile communist regime, the pique he elicits now probably seems tame by comparison. "You have to see the problems directly, look the situation in the face," Rodé said during an Oct. 3 interview with NCR in his Vatican office, linking his pull-no-punches style to his experience under the communists. "It's useless to try to hide it, or to pretend that there's no problem. It's not only useless, it's dangerous." Not extensions of Rodé Rodé agreed to the interview on the condition that there be no questions directly about either the investigation of American nuns or of the Legionaries of Christ. He did not want to prejudge the results of either process, he said, or to usurp the roles of the people in charge. He was willing, however, to talk about his personal background, and his views on the general state of religious life. It would be a mistake to regard either investigation as an extension of Rodé's personal interests....
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Unicorn |
Maureen Dowd and Cardinal Rode | #2679 | ||
About Catholics still in the Church who don't have a good thing to say about the RCC: I just cannot understand why these people stay in the Church, while besmirching and foul-mouthing her, instead of doing the honest thing and leave.
Mag6, the presence of people such as Maureen Dowd and her ilk are, regrettably, an unpleasant reality for the Church. I understand your frustration only too well. Reading that column of hers made me want to take a fistful of antacids.
I don't deny that the Church has made mistakes throughout the long history of the Catholic faith. The Church is composed of human beings, who are fallible, and as such, are bound to make mistakes. There is nothing wrong with expressing honest and constructive criticism about certain teachings that have since been proven to be - well, shall we say, hurtful to mankind. I am thinking here of the errors for which the Church has since expressed remorse in the unforgettable "Memory and Reconciliation".
I can never understand, therefore, why people like Maureen Dowd, who seems to be a cradle Catholic, cannot seem to find the charity in their hearts to express their disagreements with the Church in a civilized, intelligent and - above all - reasonable manner. Having been raised in the Catholic faith, one would think that these people would understand the Church far better than those who are not Catholics, or who converted to the Catholic faith. Sadly, they are the first to misunderstand the Church, and yes, to heap opprobrium on the Church and all those who choose to abide by her teachings. Talk about "biting the hand that fed you"! If they find the Catholic faith so hateful and abhorrent, there is nothing to stop them from leaving the Church - they are not being compelled to stay, and I would far better see people like Maureen Dowd leave the Church than to see them call themselves Catholic even as they malign the Pope, insult the Church and belittle the truths of the Faith.
And to be honest, if I were an Anglican, a Lutheran, a Methodist, or an Evangelical, I'm not so sure I would want to have someone like Maureen Dowd in my church either. Because I don't know how someone so spiteful and unpleasant can ever bring some positive witness to the faith that I profess.
Now, on a separate note ...
Rodé agreed to the interview on the condition that there be no questions directly about either the investigation of American nuns or of the Legionaries of Christ. He did not want to prejudge the results of either process, he said, or to usurp the roles of the people in charge.
Cardinal Rodé sounds a rather fascinating fellow. I'm sure some people would find him a bit of a challenge, but I appreciate a person who can call a spade a spade. Such people may be a tad "brusque" sometimes, but one can, for the most part, expect to know where one stands with these forthright people.
Frankly, I think he has taken the correct approach in declining to speak about the apostolic visitations. Until the visitations have been concluded, and the results made public, it is indeed best not to fuel any preconceptions about how the Holy See will address the situation of the women religious in the US. In this manner, all involved in the visitations can approach their task with the utmost objectivity possible. Cardinal Rodé's policy reminds me somewhat of the "sub judice" doctrine of the legal system, where it is considered as inappropriate to comment on a case that is pending before the courts. I think it is a prudent stand to take, and I hope people will appreciate it. Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI |
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Benodette |
John Paul II International Film Festival | #2680 | ||
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There will be a John Paul II International Film Festival in Miami between 29 October and 7 November 2009
The festival will be an annual event where families, couples, singles, people of all ages and cultures can experience the power of God through film, music,
and communion. The weekend film festival will showcase the latest in faith-based films, and other artistic expressions that support the values and virtues that
made JP2 so loved in the world by Catholics and non-Catholics alike.
THE 13TH DAY - Director: Ian and Dominic Higgins AFTER THE TRUTH - Director: Roland Suso Richter As We Forgive - Director: Laura Waters Hinson BandSlam - Director: Todd Graff Bella - Director: Alejandro Gomez Monteverde The Birth of Freedom - Director: Jay Richards The Boy in the Striped Pajamas - Director: Mark Herman Duska - Director: Wanda Rozycka Faith Like Potatoes - Director: Regardt van den Bergh God In China - Director: Raphaela Schmid THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE - Director: Charles Kinnane The Mighty Macs - Director: Tim Chambers Road of Hope - Director: David Naglieri Rosary Stars - Director: Jake Alba
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