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On a different note, I was watching the latest Habemus Papam on Youtube since it was about 3am at Manila when all that happened, is it just me or did Cardinal Tauran looked and sounded like he came from a marathon? He was like catching his breath and gasping for air. I know he's French and all but is he really like that? Then I searched for the Habemus Papam of Papa Ratzinger, Cardinal Estevez nailed it! Apparently he has both the theatrics and dignity required for such a solemn and joyous announcement. And I can't help but compare the two announcements, why was the tapestry covering the Loggia not emblazoned with Benedict XVI's arms? Or was it just poor video quality? Also, in the 2013 announcement they seem to be in a hurry, surely they want to bask in that moment. Perhaps that is a portent of things to come, changes are sure but the desire to bring man to God and God to man must not diminish the respect, dignity and beauty that is directed to God alone.
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Some of us think it is sad to see the High Church elements go, others of you here rejoice in it.
.... recall the bitter and offensive comments made as some of the things were brought to light.
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I watched live on TV this morning the new pope’s Mass at Sant’Anna, and the Angelus at noon (Italy
time). Francis’ simplicity is startling,
his spontaneity, humility and warmth. The way he approaches people is unbelievable. I was moved by his presence and words, but
not by his liturgical style. His liturgical style actually fits perfect at a small church
like Sant’Anna. That would not play well
inside St. Peter’s Basilica especially during high holidays.
The Mass at the Vatican’s parish church looked like a
typical Sunday service, something that one can find anywhere around the
world. The new pope looked like a parish
priest saying mass for his congregation.
It was shocking to all that after mass, Francis waited outside the church without his mitre to greet the
startling parishioners exiting the church.
Some broke in tears, others embraced and kissed him on both checks. He touched babies and blessed children. Very accessible, to say the least. John
Paul II all over again. Imagine what
lies ahead for the Vatican’s Corps of
The service lasted less than an hour. It was all in Italian, very simple.
To my surprise, the pope wore a beautiful white simple
mitre edged with gold (under the new regime, beauty has become a surprising element –
with the previous pope, we took it for granted), and a purple chasuble recently
worn by Cardinal Sodano at Cardinal Cheli’s funeral. I predict that Francis will use his personal
mitre (the one that he wore the day after his election) for the rest of his
pontificate. It is simple and unassuming.
The pope wore a plain alb, and not a pontifical dalmatic. It
is almost certain that Francis will never wear lace (all the Franciscan male saints
did), and most likely he will make no use of the dalmatic. John
Paul II wore a pontifical dalmatic only at episcopal ordinations. Msgr. Marini seemed more at ease this time with
“Franciscan” low key style. He participated
in the Mass with his distinct high pitch voice.
The pope carried the staff of Benedict XVI. I read at an Italian magazine that after his election, Marini
presented Francis with few choices for pastoral staffs (the
Scorzelli’s included), and, surprisingly Francis selected Benedict’s staff.
He sat on a red velvet chair. He celebrated mass on a portable altar
with a sylver cross in the middle (as done for his first Mass inside the Sistine
Chapel). I am grateful to see that the
Benedictine altar arrangement is still in place even though it has been modified
and reduced in size. He delivered a
sermon standing up and without a miter.
Some observations: this
pope never chants. Ever. I don’t know if he considers chanting a High
Church element and dismisses it or he cannot sing due to his pulmonary condition. He never genuflects either. I like that he holds the Host in adoration
for a long time during the consecration. The pope does not distribute community to the faithful. The two
presiding deacons distributed communion to a kneeling congregation and on the
tongue (thank you, Great Benedict XVI!).
The parish priest greeted the pope after Mass, and gave him
The new pope comes across as a man of strong determination and
certainty. It seems that he knows exactly what he
wants. I hope his determination applies to clean
the Vatican mess as well. We were told
that Benedict XVI always abided with the selection of vestments and mitres made by his master
of ceremonies, and never raised any objections. I am certain
that the opposite happens with Francis. He
chooses what he wears. In that sense, he is making a point to demonstate his franciscan simplicity. The media picked it up immediately, and raves how the new pope appears. The media (US TV news) is thriving today announcing again
and again that the new pope showed up for mass in a plain white cassock and a simple sylver pectoral cross unlike
his predecessor who used to embrace gold, pomp and luxury. Really! I wonder how many of these journalists and us listeners will get inspired by Francis simple style, and start helping the poor.
After Mass, the pope recognized a young priest in the
congregation who works with the destitute in Latin America. Francis invited the priest to come up and
introduced him to the congregation. It was very spontaneous. He spoke
about the good work that he does. Because
of him, the people on streets now have a purpose in life. I cannot imagine how this
young priest may have felt. Quite
With every new liturgical celebration (by Easter we have a perfect sample), we are getting to
know more about Francis’ character, which is dramatically different of what we are used to during the past 8 years. His
liturgical Low Church Jesuit style does nothing for me. I find this particular way of celebrating very
plain, bland, and uninspiring. The music
was flat and boring. I have tried, and
tried very hard to like these type of Low Mass services, it just does do it for me. Liturgically speaking we are back in the ‘70s
and ‘80s, a dreadful era. I wish I could go to sleep for the rest of Francis’
pontificate and wake up for the next pope hoping for something better. Fortunately, this applies only to his
liturgical style. His words, his
charitable warmth, his simplicity move me tremendously. To my surprise, his words and stories stay with me, and I
catch myself reflecting on them during the day.
At noon and for the first time, he prayed the Angelus in
Latin from his apartment (he still does not live there)! Even though Latin is the closest speaking
language to his native Spanish, the new pope has troubles reciting it, he needs
to read the prayers, he obviously does not know them by heart, no surprise here. Francis is another
Marian pope. His Angelus
speech was simple and his style again very engaging and approachable. He said touching stories. At a
moment, it seemed that he was promoting Cardinal Kasper’s book, and after he
caught himself on how this may be
interpreted, he corrected himself in a very sweet and humble way. To my disappointment, he only spoke in
Italian. I was hoping to listen to some argentine
Spanish with the distinct pronunciation of the “y” of “ll” sound!
The pope spoke about the mystery of mercy and for not
judging. Because of his words, I have abstained
as much I could (and as my limited character and raging ego allow me) from harshly criticizing
his liturgical style that I so much dislike. Thankfully,
most of the other ancient Christian denominations maintain and preserve their
traditions. I am too, paulinevictoria, leaning
now towards High Church Anglicanism searching for some more inspiring and
uplifting liturgical services and experience. The see
of Peter has currently abandoned us. Where does Canterbury stand liturgically?
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The Vatican has released the booklet for the Mass in which Pope Francis will be installed as Pope. The Mass will be conducted in Latin Francis must be fuming about it. Probably he is in isolation today practicing his Latin. What an irony. During his tenure, the formidable Jesuit archbishop forbade the priests of Buenos Aires to use any Latin in the liturgy. According to the booklet, the first reading will be in English, and the second in Spanish. The gospel will be chanted in Greek ONLY (used to be Latin and Greek at such extraordinary occasion!) This is an amazing innovation. I don’t know how this came to fruition. If the church has to look at its liturgical roots, (ancient) Greek was the gospels’ original language. I am thrilled about it. Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople (among so many representatives of the eastern orthodox churches) will be present at the installation Mass. I have noticed that Cardinal Bergoglio until his ascension to the papacy, he was the head of the Ordinate of Eastern Rites Catholics in Argentina. Did Cardinal Bergoglio presided in any byzantine liturgies?
The Roman Canon will be chanted during the Eucharistic prayer. I don’t know if the word “chanted” is correct word here. I have noticed that Francis does not chant, he only recites the prayers.
Moynihan is in latest report confirms the following information (which has been floating in the internet for days now):
This clearly is intended to put an exclamation point on the "Franciscan" nature of this pontificate, which began with the Pope's choice of the name "Francis," never chosen before.
About 14 of the friars will take part in the ceremony, which will mark the official beginning of Francis' pontificate.
These Franciscan servers will remain under the direction of Monsignor Guido Marini, the Master of Papal Ceremonies who was so much respected and appreciated by Emeritus Pope Benedict.
Information or Disinformation
There have been many false rumors in the Italian press, and elsewhere, regarding the new Pope's views, and plans, including reports that Pope Francis had decided to set Marini aside and entrust the Tuesday Mass of Installation only to the Franciscans. This is not true.
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