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14 March 2013 – Sistine Chapel, Vatican City
Mar 15 13 5:44 PM
A New Friend wrote:Perhaps I am sensitive to uncharitable remarks about people that we do not know and couldn't possibly evaluate their thought or motives.
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Paulinevictoria wrote:What exactly is his job - is he in charge of wardrobe, so to speak? You can't make a grown man wear something he doesn't want to. Is some senior person maybe harassing Marini to get the new Pontiff into the traditional vestments?
A New Friend wrote:My point about Marini is that it is impossible to know what he was thinking.
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On March 15, 2013, the
Italian newspaper Il fato quotidiano
"(...)Non è disponibile, il neo Pontefice
argentino, a indossare i paramenti da “museo” utilizzati da Benedetto XVI e
amati dal maestro delle celebrazioni liturgiche pontificie Guido Marini.
Proprio con lui, confidano in Vaticano, ieri sera, prima della benedizione Urbi
et Orbi, c’è stato un duro scontro. Francesco ha rifiutato di indossare la
mozzetta rossa, la mezza mantella degli ecclesiastici che copre solo le spalle,
di velluto rosso e bordata di ermellino. La stola rossa, invece, il neo Papa ha
voluto adoperarla soltanto per la benedizione alla città di Roma e al mondo, ma
poggiandosela sulle spalle e togliendosela da solo, sfilandola, in entrambi i
casi, dalle mani del cerimoniere Marini.
Oggi con la Messa con i cardinali elettori nella Cappella Sistina c’è stata la
prova del nove del rapporto di Papa Francesco con la liturgia e con monsignor
Marini. Il Pontefice argentino ha indossato
paramenti moderni come Giovanni Paolo II e non quelli di Pio IX rispolverati da
Benedetto XVI. Non ha ripreso la stupenda croce astile dello scultore
napoletano Lello Scorzelli passata nelle mani di Paolo VI, Giovanni Paolo I e
Giovanni Paolo II e poi riposta da Benedetto XVI. Ma non ha nemmeno usato
quella di Pio IX adoperata per un certo periodo da Ratzinger. Segnali chiari
dai quali si intuisce che lo spirito francescano incarnato da Bergoglio entrerà
non solo visibilmente nella Curia romana e nei gesti dei primi giorni che tanto
entusiasmo suscitano nei fedeli di tutto il mondo.
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to the article, before the new Pope’s first appearance in the balcony, there
was a "hard struggle" (duro scontro) between Mons. Marini and the newly
elected Pope about the attire.
new Pope with his humility and iconoclastic approach to the liturgy most likely will undo
the restoration that took place under Benedict XVI during the past 5+ years. We've
seen this type of humility before. It is the humility of the John Paul I;
he who suppressed the Papal Coronation in favor of a rite of inauguration. We have seen this particular brand of
humility in another recent Pope: Paul VI, the great simplifier of Papal and non-papal
liturgy and ceremonial in the history of the church.
With the new regime and ideology, Guido Marini
most likely is on his way out, and to be replaced with someone who abides with the
new Pope’s "simple" style and character. And, with
Marini goes all the beautiful vestments, mitres, thrones etc, that started one by one to come out
of the Papal Sacristy after decades of storage. Most importantly the Benedictine
candle arrangement with the centrality of the cross on the papal altar will be
removed, a staple element of Benedict's restoration. We have already seen it a modified version at Francis first Mass at the Sistine Chapel.
We thank Msgr. Guido Marini
for his tireless and brave work during the past 5+ years, and for bringinsg into
materialization the reform of the reform. Under Benedict’s unparallel direction
and wisdom, he infused immense beauty into the papal liturgies for the Glory of
God. The beauty of the catholic tradition transcends all senses and lifts one
soul to angelic spheres. It is probably the most beautiful thing outside of
the past few years some of us have been treemendously grateful for Benedict XVI's reform of
the reform in the liturgy. We were under the impression that the reform would continue or even grow with
Benedict’s successor. Now, it becomes
apparent that this is not the case. Unfortunately, Benedict wanted to teach by example, nothing has been codified. After
5+ years of the “Benedictine” liturgical spring, a different kind of
theology is unfolding, the theology of the recent past. We are back in the ‘70s, the dreadful liturgical beige era
of Paul VI which John Paul II inhereted and maintained. No one would argue aganistt
simplicity, but let it be the noble simplicity modeled after St. Francis, St. Ignatius and Padre Pio.
the Benedictine liturgical reform of the reform came hand in hand with chaos, unimaginable scandals,
leaks, power struggles and corruption in the Curia. Evidently someone else had to be
called to clean the mess; someone with unprecedented humility that touches one’s
heart at once like the flames of the Holy Spirit. So the liturgy, the rituals, the external
beauty have to give in in order to clean house. Will they ever return? Why not have both at the same time? What a superb combination that would have been! What a huge price to pay, what a loss. I cannot find any consolation.
When it comes to the new Pope’s
inaugural vestments for Tuesday afternoon, it has been reported that they were made in Naples, Italy. As expected, they are very simple, they are white for the Feast of St. Joseph even though we are though the Lenten period. I am sure Mgr. Marini will offer Francis the papal fanon for his Inauguration. And, I am almost certain that he will refuse it as he did with the papal mozzetta and golden pectoral cross on the night of his election. I hope the new bishop of Rome remembers the great saint Padre Pio of Pietrelcina, a Capuchin Franciscan friar. Even though he lived a life of obedience, extreme austerity, poverty and simplicity, when he was to celebrate Mass he used beautiful and elaborate vestments and lace amice for the Glory of God. This is the true simplicity, humility and obedience. The pontifical vestments that will be worn by Pope Francis for
his inauguration Mass are displayed on March 14, 2013 in the Serpone & Company workshop in Naples.
Pope Francis' inauguration mass will take place on March 19 at the Vatican. (Photo
credit STR/AFP/Getty Images)
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The disgraced cardinal Mahony of Los Angeles tweets his
thoughts about the new Pope’s style:
Newly released court documents show
that it cost the LA Archdiocese nearly US $10 million to settle 4 sexual
abuse cases all because of Mahony’s actions.
I wonder how overjoyed is St. Francis about this. Not to mention Jesus witout (the) trappings!
Mar 16 13 10:58 AM
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New Friend, if you doubt the legitimacy of my
previous post, why don’t you visit Cardinal Mahony at twitter and check it yourself. here is the link:
https://twitter.com/search?q=cardinal%20mahony&src=typd click on his name.
You may be shocked to know that they are not
satirical at all, but for real. Lets not be
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