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mag6nideum |
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This is rotten news and I'm angry. For the first time in my life I'm losing sympathy with the Jews. Although they had a terrible time under many
Christians in previous centuries there hands were not always clean either. In the meantime things have thankfully changed. But, reading also the readers'
vicious comments, it is clear as daylight that most of them want no prayers from Christians. Perhaps we should heed their wish from now on. At least, this is
how I feel at this moment in time.
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Benodette |
Pope's use of Latin mass 'not a call on Jews to convert' | #322 | ||
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Haaretz - The Vatican is expected to issue a statement next week in which the Catholic Church will make it clear that the resumption of the
use of an old Latin prayer by Pope Benedict XVI during mass on Easter Sunday last month is not an attempt to call on Jews to convert, or a sign that the church
intends to initiate missionary efforts among Jews.
The Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican, which concluded in 1965, decided that the Jews should not be blamed for killing of Christ and initiated prayers in local languages, rather than the Latin that was customary until then. Pope's use of Latin mass 'not a call on Jews to convert' From Saul Singer in the Jerusalem Post - On Easter this week, controversy has swirled around Pope Benedict XVI, both for personally baptizing a prominent Muslim Italian journalist and for allowing the revived Latin mass to hope that Jews convert. Aside from Osama bin Laden's ravings about a "new Crusade," Muslims have attacked the Pope for his "provocative" act. Similarly, regarding the Latin mass, German Jewish leader Charlotte Knobloch said "I would have assumed that this German pope, of all people, had got to know first-hand the ostracizing of Jewry. ... I could not have imagined that [he] could now impose such phrases upon his Church." At some level, I understand such reactions. Jews have seen throughout history where Christian denials of Jewish legitimacy have led. And it could well seem foolish to fuel Muslim-Christian rivalry at a time when a virulent Islamic strain has declared war on other religions. But I still understand the Pope more than I do his critics. The Pope wants Muslims and Jews to become Christians. Should this be a surprise? If the Pope
won't advocate Christianity, who will?
To be fair, I did not come to Judaism through a systematic religious survey. I can hardly be sure that if I had not been born Jewish, I would have been so
attracted by Judaism as to convert.
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rcesq |
A voice of sanity | #323 | ||
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Hurrah for Saul Singer, a voice of sanity on the question of Pope Benedict's views of conversion. Indeed, if you accept the view that
one's faith is a primal force shaping your life for good and for the best that you can achieve in this world, it would be pure selfishness not to try to
spread the Good News. Thanks for the posting, Benodette.
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Benodette |
Revised prayer does not reverse Vatican II teaching on Jews | #324 | ||
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CNS - Pope Benedict XVI's revised prayer for the Jews for use in the Tridentine-rite Good Friday liturgy does not indicate any
form of stepping back from the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, the Vatican said.
"The Holy See wishes to reassure that the new formulation of the prayer, which modifies certain expressions of the 1962 Missal, in no way intends to indicate a change in the Catholic Church's regard for the Jews, which has evolved from the basis of the Second Vatican Council," said an April 4 statement from the Vatican press office. In early February, the Vatican published Pope Benedict's revision of the Good Friday prayer, which is used only in the liturgy celebrated according to the 1962 Roman Missal, or Tridentine rite. The rite is no longer widely used by Catholics but may be used by some church communities under recently revised norms. The new prayer removed language referring to the "blindness" of the Jews, but it prays that Jews will recognize Jesus, the savior, and that "all Israel may be saved." The April 4 statement said some members of the Jewish community felt the new prayer was "not in harmony with the official declarations and statements of the Holy See regarding the Jewish people and their faith which have marked the progress of friendly relations between the Jews and the Catholic Church over the last 40 years." In particular, some Jews, as well as some Catholics, felt the prayer contained an explicit call to attempt to convert Jews to Christianity.... The Vatican's April 4 statement did not mention missionary activity or attempts to convert Jews. Rather, it affirmed the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, particularly its recognition of "the unique bond with which the people of the New Testament is spiritually linked with the stock of Abraham," its condemnation of anti-Semitism as well as its promotion of "esteem, dialogue, love, solidarity and collaboration between Christians and Jews." Rabbi David Rosen, director of interreligious affairs for the American Jewish Committee, told Catholic News Service April 4 that the Vatican statement was "an important clarification." Revised prayer does not reverse Vatican II teaching on Jews Vatican assures Jews prayer not seeking conversion |
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blostopher |
Can anybody translate this article from German? | #325 | ||
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On Good Friday, Cardinal Kasper published a response to Jewish critics of Benedict's revisions in Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung -- I was curious if
anybody could translate the following into English?
Das Wann und Wie entscheidet Gott
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galantarie |
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Between the Church and Jews, an Intermittent DialogueBenedict XVI will receive a friendly welcome at the Park East synagogue of New York. But in Rome, the head rabbi has decided on "a pause for
reflection" on relations with Catholic authorities. In an interview, he explains why
ROMA, April 8, 2008 - Benedict XVI has added two more encounters to the itinerary of his upcoming visit to the United States, both with Jews: the first will be on April 17 in Washington, the second on April 18 in New York, at the Park East synagogue, in conjunction with the Jewish Passover. The news of the two additional meetings was confirmed on April 4 by the director of the Holy See press office, Fr. Federico Lombardi. On the same day, the Vatican secretariat of state released a statement intended to pacify the part of the Jewish community that had said it was offended over the new formulation of the prayer for the Jews in the liturgy of Holy Friday according to the ancient rite, a formulation introduced last February 6 by Benedict XVI. The strongest protests had been expressed by representatives of Italian Judaism. The head rabbi of Rome, Riccardo Di Segni - the successor of rabbi Elio Toaff, who had welcomed John Paul II to the synagogue and had developed a cordial dialogue with him for years - has come to the point of suspending plans for future meetings with the authorities of the Church of Rome. The protests were motivated by the fact that the new formula calls for prayers for the Jews in these terms: "May the Lord Our God enlighten their hearts so that they may acknowledge Jesus Christ, the savior of all men." And then the following prayer is pronounced: "Almighty and everlasting God, you who want all men to be saved and to reach the awareness of the truth, graciously grant that, with the fullness of peoples entering into your Church, all Israel may be saved."
"I have
a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use
it."
[Ratzinger:"Salt of the Earth"] ![]() May Our Papa's radiant-light continuously shine forth to illuminate Christ for the world! |
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blostopher |
Pope Benedict, The Jews and the "Good Friday Prayer" | #327 | ||
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My request for a translation was answered -- between the commentary of Cardinal Schonborn and Cardinal Kasper, the official teaching of the Church on this
matter has been sufficiently clarified. It's a pity that Kasper's article, which I found very helpful, was not released in English by a major service
such as Zenit News, as it would do wonders to counter the spin and confusion.
See the relevant posts here: Pope Benedict, The Jews and the "Good Friday Prayer"Against The Grain April 3, 2008 Kasper's attack on dual covenant theology: how Vatican II teaches prayer for Jewish conversion Against The Grain April 8, 2008. |
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galantarie |
Lehmann book: "Forced Labor in the Catholic Church 1939-1945." | #328 | ||
Church Employed 6,000 Forced LaborersGermany's Catholic Church employed almost 6,000 forced laborers during World War II, according to new research commissioned by the Church. The report highlights the Church's ambivalent relationship with the Nazis.
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Cardinal Karl Lehmann presenting a book commissioned by the Catholic Church on its use of forced labor under the Nazis. The German Catholic Church made no secret of the fact that it employed forced labor under the Nazis and commissioned research into its history in 2000. That research was published on Tuesday, providing detailed figures on the numbers of forced laborers used and underscoring the church's "historical burden," according to Cardinal Karl Lehmann, the bishop of Mainz.Records collected from the Catholic dioceses over the last seven years showed a total of 4,829 civilian laborers and 1,075 prisoners of war worked in 776 Catholic institutions such as hospitals, homes and monasteries, on church-owned farms or gardens during World War II. They came mainly eastern territories overrun by the Nazis such as Poland, Ukraine and the Soviet Union. "The comparatively small number of laborers, many of whom spent barely a year working in Catholic institutions, doesn't even amount to a thousandth of the estimated total of 13 million forced laborers employed throughout the Reich," Lehmann said in a statement. "But it remains a historical burden which will continue to challenge our Church in the future. There is no collective guilt, but as Christians and as the Church we are aware of the responsibility that results from the burden of the past." Lehmann was speaking at the presentation of the 700-page history titled "Forced Labor in the Catholic Church 1939-1945." "We shouldn't hide the fact that the memory of the Catholic Church was blind for too long to the fate and the suffering of the men, women, young people and children dragged to Germany from all over Europe to be put to forced labor," Lehmann said. Germany's Catholic and Protestant churches pledged in 2000 to compensate forced laborers that had worked for them during World War II. The Protestants contributed to the compensation fund set up by the German government and industry while the Catholics opted to compensate laborers separately. The church set up a fund in 2000 to pay a symbolic compensation of 5,000 German marks (€2,558 or $4,019) to former laborers. It traced and paid 587 laborers until it stopped searching at the end of 2004. It has also set up a "reconciliation fund" which has spent €2.71 million on projects such as education programs and school exchanges. "Cooperative Antagonism"Cooperating with the Nazis was a matter of survival for the Church, said Karl-Joseph Hummel, one of the authors of the book. He said the relationship between the Church and the Nazis could best be described as "cooperative antagonism" rather than straight collaboration or resistance. He pointed out that more than 300 monasteries and Catholic institutions were seized by the Nazis without compensation between 1940 and 1942. More than 10,000 clerics were evicted from their homes and a total of 2,720 clerics -- 1,780 from Poland and 447 from Germany -- were interned in Dachau concentration camp until the end of the war. "An impression arose that National Socialism and the Catholic Church were at least partly supporting each other, because the regime's plan to destroy the Church wasn't started during the war years," said Hummel in a statement. Hitler had decided to shelve his fight with the Church until after the war. But the Church did not do enough to distance itself from the Nazis, said Hummel. Its calls for love of fatherland, loyalty and sacrifice helped a government that was waging a racially motivated war of destruction, he said. cro
"I have
a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use
it."
[Ratzinger:"Salt of the Earth"] ![]() May Our Papa's radiant-light continuously shine forth to illuminate Christ for the world! |
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Benodette |
"Oremus pro conversione Judæorum." Cardinal Kasper Takes the Field | #329 | ||
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From Sandro Magister - The protests of some Jews, and also of some Christians, over the new prayer introduced by Benedict XVI into the liturgy of Good Friday
according to the ancient rite have met with a new and authoritative response from the Vatican: that of cardinal Walter Kasper.
Kasper is president of the pontifical council for the promotion of Christian unity, and of the commission for religious relations with Judaism. Before him, the Vatican authorities who spoke out in defense of the prayer included archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the pontifical council for culture, with a commentary in "L'Osservatore Romano" on February 15, and also the secretariat of state, with a statement on April 4. Among the Jews as well there were some who spoke out in defense of the new prayer: for example, the American rabbi Jacob Neusner, with an article on February 23 in the German newspaper "Die Tagespost." But the controversy has not died out. Just a few days ago, a new criticism was made by an important representative of Judaism, the chief rabbi of Rome, Riccardo Di Segni. In all of the statements that it cited, www.chiesa presented the entire text. And it does the same further below, with the text of cardinal Kasper, published in "L'Osservatore Romano" on April 10th. As a helpful reminder, the new formula of the prayer for the Jews introduced last February 6 by Benedict XVI in to the ancient rite of Good Friday opens with this invitation: "May the Lord Our God enlighten their hearts so that they may acknowledge Jesus Christ, the savior of all men." And it continues with this prayer : "Almighty and everlasting God, you who want all men to be saved and to reach the awareness of the truth, graciously grant that, with the fullness of peoples entering into your Church, all Israel may be saved." What some Jews see as intolerable is that the Catholic Church should pray for the conversion of Israel to faith in Jesus Christ. Here, then, is how cardinal Kasper replies to the criticisms: "Oremus pro conversione Judæorum." Cardinal Kasper Takes the Field |
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rcesq |
Sanitized Stations of the Cross at World Youth Day | #330 | ||
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A Mel Gibson-like interpretation of the Passion of Christ is not going to be the "script" for the Stations of the Cross in Sydney. I wonder just
how far we can go without distorting history and the Gospels.
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Benodette |
ADL Welcomes Vatican Assurances That Dialogue With Jews Will Continue With Respect And Friendship | #331 | ||
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The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) welcomed assurances from the Vatican that the Catholic Church remains fully committed to promoting and
deepening relations with the Jews through a dialogue marked with "profound respect, sincere esteem and cordial friendship."
Those words were conveyed in a recent letter from Tarcisio Cardinal Bertone, the Vatican's Secretary of State, to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel. His letter
was written to address concerns that had been raised by Catholic and Jewish leaders about the re-introduction of a Latin Good Friday prayer for Jews in the
1962 Roman Missal recently reformulated by Pope Benedict XVI.
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galantarie |
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Holocaust Survivors to Thank Pope
Foundation Events Aim to Shine Light on Historical Facts NEW YORK, 09 JUNE 2008 (Zenit.org).- A New York-based organization will bring a group of Jewish Holocaust survivors to visit Benedict XVI next week. They want to personally thank the Pope for the Church's intervention in saving their lives during the war. The Pave the Way foundation is bringing the group to visit the German Pontiff on June 18. It is just one initiative the foundation has undertaken to clear up misunderstandings about the Church and its role during the Holocaust. Another initiative is a September symposium on the papacy of Pope Pius XII. The Pave the Way foundation partnered with TV News Agency Rome Reports to videotape eye witness testimony. They uncovered secret activities of the Pope and members of the papal household to save the lives of Jews during the war. The foundation consulted various experts who will be panelists at the symposium. The audience will be over 100 mostly Jewish religious, educational and community leaders from around the world. The participants will be presented with historical newspaper accounts, documents and eye witness testimony from those who are still alive. The purpose of the symposium will be to analyze what is known to date, while Vatican archivists continue to prepare thousands of documents to be opened. The foundation clarified that the symposium does not aim to give a scholarly review of archived manuscripts. "This event will be almost like a jury, where events of the day and actual witnesses can help the group reach a reasonable conclusion today, which will be subject to historical confirmation when the archives have been opened," a statement from the foundation explained. The symposium participants will also get a chance to visit Benedict XVI.
"I have
a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use
it."
[Ratzinger:"Salt of the Earth"] ![]() May Our Papa's radiant-light continuously shine forth to illuminate Christ for the world! |
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rcesq |
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Galantarie:
What amazing news about the Pave the Way Foundation's visit with Pope Benedict. I hope it will be widely reported in the press (keeping my fingers crossed) and I'd urge all to say a prayer to Blessed John XXIII for help in restoring his saintly predecessor Pope Pius XII's reputation. |
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Unicorn |
Pius XII defends Jewish rites | #334 | ||
I'd urge all to say a prayer to Blessed John XXIII for help in restoring his saintly predecessor Pope Pius XII's reputation.You can count on my prayers, Rcesq. Apropos the Symposium on Pius XII, here is an article written by Andrea Tornielli, which appeared in Il Giornale on June 3, 2008. I have attempted a translation, and apologize in advance for any errors.
The original article may be read here: Quando Pio XII difese i riti ebraici Proud to be Papist! "Each of us is the result of a thought of God. Each of us is willed, each of us is loved ..." - Benedict XVI "He knocks at the door, he is close to us and thus true joy is close, which is stronger than all the sorrows in the world, and in our life." - Benedict XVI |
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galantarie |
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'WIPE OUT THE JEWS'Anti-Semitic Hate Speech in the Name of IslamThough most Muslims reject Islamism and its propaganda, anti-Semitic messages from satellite channels like the Hamas-run Al-Aqsa are helping to bring a message of hate and intolerance to Europe. The effects of such hate preaching can already be felt in Germany.
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Sowing the seeds of hate: The Hamas satellite station Al-Aqsa recently used a Mickey Mouse clone to teach Muslim children -- in Gaza and Europe -- to hate Jews. "Sanabel, what do you want to do to help the Al-Aqsa Mosque?" Farfur asks on the children's program of Hamas's Al-Aqsa television station. "We want to fight." "And what else?" "Wipe out the Jews." Now Farfur, the cartoon character on Hamas's children's television program, is satisfied. Farfur is a carbon copy of Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse, but the Hamas version does something that Mickey would never do: He entertains children while propagating the murder of Jews. International protests forced Hamas to take its Disney clone out of circulation. Al-Aqsa complied, but promptly turned Farfur's departure into an anti-Semitic statement: Farfur was clubbed to death by an Israeli official. Then the girl hosting the program turned to the camera and said: "You've seen how the Jews killed Farfur as a martyr. What do you want to say to the Jews?" A three-year-old girl named Shaima called into the show to say: "We don't like Jews, because they are dogs! We will fight them!" "Oh, Shaima, you're right," the girl in the studio replied, "the Jews are criminals and our enemies."Farfur's appearances are typical of Hamas's anti-Semitic propaganda, which the organization also exports to Germany via satellite, hoping to breed new generations of fanatical anti-Semites and suicide bombers. The Hamas station, founded in 2006, is modeled on the Hezbollah station in neighboring Lebanon, al-Manar. Al-Manar's children's program shows children wearing explosive belts and images of dying Israeli soldiers, with triumphant chants as background music. Cartoons depict scenes like that of a child blowing himself up near Israeli soldiers, or of a smiling boy flying toward Israel on a missile. Adult viewers can enjoy video clips that use inspirational graphics and rousing music to glorify the act of committing a suicide bombing, while the evening lineup offers family entertainment with a series of films based on the classic anti-Semitic forgery "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." In late 2004, France banned the broadcasting of al-Manar through the European Eutelsat satellite system, citing the station's anti-Semitic content. Nevertheless, messages of hate were still being broadcast into the living rooms of Muslims in Germany via satellites controlled by Saudi Arabia and Egypt, ArabSat and NileSat. Exposure to this programming was apparently not without consequences. Rabbi Zalman Gurevitch was wearing a traditional black robe when he left his synagogue in Frankfurt's Westend neighborhood on Sept. 7, 2007. It was the Sabbath. According to the police report, he encountered a 22-year-old German of Afghan descent "spontaneously and coincidentally" a short time later. It was early evening and the man, shouting "You %%#+ Jew, I'm going to kill you," plunged a knife into the rabbi's abdomen. Gurevitch was recognizable as a Jew. He survived, thanks to luck and emergency surgery. Although this attack was an isolated incident, it is hard to overlook how hatred imported from Beirut and Gaza resurfaces in the form of daily acts of anti-Semitism in schools and athletic clubs, on streets and in the subway. Young children raised to be anti-Semitic are already using the phrase "You Jew!" as a derogatory expression in kindergartens and on playgrounds. Schoolchildren berate their teachers, calling them Jew dogs, for not offering Sharia-compatible instruction, and Jewish schoolchildren are attacked and feel compelled to switch to Berlin's Jewish high school and to hide the insignia of their Jewish faith -- the yarmulke and the Star of David -- when in public. Neo-Nazi sentiments were behind the majority of anti-Semitic incidents reported in 2006. At the same time, however, the number of anti-Semitic criminal offences committed by Muslims jumped from 33 to 88. In 2007 the German Interior Ministry published a study on the worldviews of "Muslims in Germany," the most comprehensive of its kind to date, which confirmed this trend. According to the study, "anti-Semitic attitudes were found among young Muslims far more often than among non-Muslim immigrants or domestic non-Muslims." The study cited examples of Muslim students to illustrate that this anti-Semitism cannot be dismissed as the product of an underdog attitude within marginalized social groups, but instead represents an ideological way of thinking. "The pervasiveness of sweeping anti-Semitic prejudices among Muslim students was also noticeable," the study pointed out. "Such prejudices, expressed indirectly by slightly more than one-third and in extreme form by about 10 percent of students, are significantly more common than anti-Christian sentiments." What is the source of this profound hatred, which stations like al-Aqsa and al-Manar are spreading and one in 10 of the Muslim students surveyed embraces? The Middle East conflict is often cited as a reason, but this is too simplistic. Hostility toward Jews has existed since Islam came into being. In its charter, Hamas quotes the Prophet Muhammad as saying: "The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." Through the use of such language, the hatred of Jews is given a religious justification. Nazi Germany entered the picture in the 20th century. The Nazis, hoping to use early Islamic hostility toward Jews for their own ends, paid substantial sums of money to support the Muslim Brotherhood's anti-Jewish campaigns in Egypt. And just as they had radicalized widespread Christian anti-Semitism in Europe, the Nazis did their utmost to radicalize the latent anti-Judaism that had originated in early Islam. While everything Jewish was considered evil in early Islam, everything evil was now being labeled as Jewish, from wars and revolutions to the drug trade and the decline of moral values. Between 1938 and 1945, the Nazis' radio station broadcast its lies about a supposed Jewish world conspiracy into the Islamic world every evening. The professionally produced programs were broadcast in Arabic, Persian and Turkish, and were very popular. Thus, it comes as no surprise that the Hamas charter has also adopted this legacy.The Jews, we read in Article 22, "stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... They stood behind World War I ... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it." Whether in the case of Muhammad or here, in both cases Hamas used sources to justify its hatred of the Jews that are older than Israel. But once someone has fallen for this demonizing delusion, he will find his anti-Jewish concept of the enemy confirmed in everything that an Israeli government does or fails to do. What is more, those who hold Jews responsible for all the world's ills will paint the Jewish state as the root of all evil. Following Hamas's example, they will celebrate or deny the Holocaust, even in Berlin. Teachers in the German capital are sometimes confronted with Muslim students who expressly use the Holocaust to justify their sympathies for the Nazis ("I like Hitler; he did the right thing with the Jews"), refusing to take part in school trips to concentration camp memorials. During one excursion to the German Historical Museum, a group of Muslim youth gathered in front of a replica of a gas chamber in Auschwitz and applauded. Can we blame Israel for the mindset that leads to such activities? Perhaps it would be more apt to conclude that the waves of hatred that the Nazis' shortwave radio transmitter once broadcast into the Arab world are now returning in the form of a delayed echo.
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galantarie |
Saturdays comments and blogs in the U.S! | #336 | ||
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Geraldo, You can't really be that ignorant.
You DO know that EVERY SINGLE CHILD in Nazi Germany was a member of the Hitler Youth, and not by choice? And you DO know that Pope Benedict deserted his forced service in the German Army (having never fired a shot) and became an American POW? And you DO know that his father was so rabidly anti-Nazi that he risked his family's life by being such a man, forcing the family to move FOUR times in their attempts to evade the Nazis? And you do know that Razinger has the support of Jewish groups worldwide and that people like Rabbi Marvin Hier have called the insinuation that belonging to Hitler Youth makes one a Nazi "ludicrous"? You don't? Well in that case, either shut the hell up, or try to educate yourself by listening to something other than the leftist, agenda-driven media. Or the voices in your head.
"I have
a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use
it."
[Ratzinger:"Salt of the Earth"] ![]() May Our Papa's radiant-light continuously shine forth to illuminate Christ for the world! |
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rcesq |
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Galantarie: I'm sure we're all aware that all sorts of people post comments in comboxes on blogs and that many of them, sadly, are far
from edifying. In fact, what the internet has done is expose us to far more drivel and hate than most of us experienced before such anonymous commentary could
turn up in what we read. I don't think that it's a good idea to pollute this forum with this stuff -- what is the point? If we start down that road,
we'll soon be wading knee deep in that kind of sewage.
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Unicorn |
Benedict XVI and Pave the Way Foundation defend Pius XII | #338 | ||
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This is a very interesting development in the beatification of Pius XII which I feel everyone on the RFC may want to read about.
From the Independent Catholic News (ICN): Christian-Jewish forum defends Pope Pius XII Christian-Jewish forum defends Pope Pius XII Il Papa himself has added his voice to the defense of Pius XII. From the Catholic News Service (CNS): Pope Benedict says Pope Pius worked bravely, secretly to help Jews | ||||
Yeah Ratzo has lots of experience with Nazis - he was one himself! Wake the F up!